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    Quote Originally Posted by qwRad View Post
    Yeah but with the 'oversampling' technology the pixel size would be similar to 7µm so in the DSLR range.
    "Oversampling technology" - I like it when manufacturers adapt terminology to sound better than what it really means. It's downsampling, not oversampling. Still, Nikon could take a page from their book to apply to the 36 MP D800 - "When 'oversampled' to the 12 MP resolution of the D700, image noise from the D800 becomes virtually invisible."

    Nokia's white paper adds, "What’s more, based on Nyqvist theorem, you actually need oversampling for good performance." Nyqvist? Is their technological white paper referring to the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem postulated by Harry Nyquist, or to some random musings of Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist, who was Mikael Blomkvist before Daniel Craig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist View Post
    who was Mikael Blomkvist before Daniel Craig?

    He really should just stick with being James Bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist View Post
    Nyqvist? Is their technological white paper referring to the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem postulated by Harry Nyquist, or to some random musings of Swedish actor Michael Nyqvist, who was Mikael Blomkvist before Daniel Craig?
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    Nokia's white paper adds, "What’s more, based on Nyqvist theorem, you actually need oversampling for good performance." [/QUOTE]

    The Nyquist criterion requires that you filter your signal so that you'e not aliasing higher frequency information down to lower frequencies. What they're doing is removing the antialiasing filter by increasing the spatial sampling frequency. I still say that for the lenses they're using all they're doing is getting a higher resolution of the blur disk - no AA filter required for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadS View Post
    I still say that for the lenses they're using all they're doing is getting a higher resolution of the blur disk - no AA filter required for that!
    I wouldn't be so sure. Mobile phone optics providers publish MTF charts at an incredible 400 lp/mm (over 10 times higher resolution than the highest that Canon publishes) -- and even the cheap ones still have usable contrast at that spatial frequency. (I don't have the link right now, but one of them was posted to Image Sensors World a few years ago, no doubt optics have improved a little since then.)

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