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    No, No, No I don't have any pictures of hummers to post. After watching this thread and really enjoying everyone's work I have to admit I have been embarrassed to write anything lately. Over the last two or three weeks I have been out several times to shoot my very active hummers, but I have not had even one keeper. I'm in a slump. As some of you may know (I hope I am not the only one), there is nothing worse than shooting 500 photos only to discover that they are all @#$%^&*. Out of focus, ghosting, poor background, poor composition, bad exposure----you name the problem and I have experienced it this month. I am embarrased, frustrated and even angry about my lack of success. More importantly, I am frustrated with my inability to isolate the problems or discover my errors.

    So, I have a 4 day weekend and have already informed my bride that I plan to address and fix these problems (even if it takes all four days)---can you say OCD. In one of my blog posts I said that one of my (realistic) goals was to have 100 decent hummingbird shots before the end of the season. I am currently up to 72 I think, so I have some serious work ahead of me this weekend.

    I was having some luck with my old setup, but in order to change things up a bit and challenge myself to new levels of competance I decide to alter many of my practices----now I have to figure out which one or how many of my ideas were "bad ones"

    My old setup consisted of:

    7d, 500L 4 or 5 speed lights set at 1/16, ISO 400 or higher, Shutter speed at 250 and aperature between f9 and f16 depending on ambient light. I also normally used a staged but natural background.

    My failed setup of late consisted of 7D, 100L, 4 or 5 speedlights set at 1/32, ISO 200, Shutter speed at 125, and aperature between f11 and f16 and I started useing a printed background.

    My biggest problem, and one I thought I had resolved, was ghosting. So I plan to start my trouble shooting at shutter speed and going back to 1/250th and see what that does. Logically, It shouldn't make a difference if no ambient light is let in and all speed lights are set correctly---But I am doing something wrong and I figured this is as good a place as any to start.

    Anyway, Sorry about the rant, But I had to vent and you folks are the only people I know that might understand my obsession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bob williams View Post
    there is nothing worse than shooting 500 photos only to discover that they are all @#$%^&*. Out of focus, ghosting, poor background, poor composition, bad exposure----you name the problem and I have experienced it this month. I am embarrased, frustrated and even angry about my lack of success. More importantly, I am frustrated with my inability to isolate the problems or discover my errors.
    If you took the best of those 500 @#$%^&* shots and posted it, I bet a whole lot of people here would wish they could get one that good. You are going to be your worst critic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayaker72 View Post
    Hmmm...seems to be a common problem here at the TDP forums. Perhaps a symptom of "L" disease?
    You may be on to something

    Quote Originally Posted by ddt0725 View Post
    72!? I had a hb in my backyard continuously from sunrise to sunset all season long and I think I ended up with about 5 - 8 keepers! And they were only considered keepers out of desperation to end up with something! I agree, I bet you are well past 100 for what the rest of us would be proud to have taken!

    Good luck this weekend, Bob but I think you are way to hard on yourself!
    Thanks DD for the vote of Confidence, But seriously, I just haven't been able to get that dang Ghosting problem I am obsessed with.

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    +1 on what Pat said.
    Quote Originally Posted by conropl View Post
    If you took the best of those 500 @#$%^&* shots and posted it, I bet a whole lot of people here would wish they could get one that good. You are going to be your worst critic.

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    Thanks again, guys and perhaps I am my own worst critic---aren't we all?---I guess that is what keeps us in the game.

    On a positive note: I was out shooting at 6:00 am this morning and I think I got some winners. I shot about 700 frames and no ghosting. The birds were very active and I even had one land on my coffee cup. The main thing I changed was my shutter speed, i took it back up to 1/250th and I placed three lights on the bird and one on the background. I am still uploading them, so give me a couple of hours and I'll get a few more posted, Until then, Here is one. Thanks again for the encouraging words.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bob williams View Post
    On a positive note: I was out shooting at 6:00 am this morning and I think I got some winners. I shot about 700 frames and no ghosting. The birds were very active and I even had one land on my coffee cup. The main thing I changed was my shutter speed, i took it back up to 1/250th and I placed three lights on the bird and one on the background. I am still uploading them, so give me a couple of hours and I'll get a few posted. Thanks again for the encouraging words.


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    Congrats on a very successful morning! I am looking forward to seeing the results!

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    Nice hummer! That may be my favorite. I was really excited about trying hummers again this year, but with the drought in Missouri, I have had so many other animals (mammals, bees, wasps) on my feeders other than hummers to make a serious effort. Most mornings I find my feeders on the ground with a broken chain. I assume raccoons are doing this, as the squirrels have never been strong enough to break my chains in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob williams View Post
    You may be on to something

    Thanks DD for the vote of Confidence, But seriously, I just haven't been able to get that dang Ghosting problem I am obsessed with.

    Thanks again, guys and perhaps I am my own worst critic---aren't we all?---I guess that is what keeps us in the game.

    On a positive note: I was out shooting at 6:00 am this morning and I think I got some winners. I shot about 700 frames and no ghosting. The birds were very active and I even had one land on my coffee cup. The main thing I changed was my shutter speed, i took it back up to 1/250th and I placed three lights on the bird and one on the background. I am still uploading them, so give me a couple of hours and I'll get a few more posted, Until then, Here is one. Thanks again for the encouraging words.

    Bob
    Super image, a Rufous I presume, really very very nice......problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob williams View Post


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    This is fantastic Bob! I hope you plan on making an enlargement of this if you have not done so already!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Elberson View Post
    This is fantastic Bob! I hope you plan on making an enlargement of this if you have not done so already!!
    Thanks Mark---No printing yet; I'm going to see what else the weekend brings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob williams View Post
    Thanks Mark---No printing yet; I'm going to see what else the weekend brings.
    Bob, Adoramapix has a great sale right now on prints. I believe 16x20s are $5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson View Post
    Bob, Adoramapix has a great sale right now on prints. I believe 16x20s are $5.
    There ya go DD, Thanks Jayson, great tip.
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