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    I bought FoCal, since I thought it would be a good time to because I had to check out the new 24-70mm.
    I just ran the new lens through three sets of tests. In all about 12-15 cycles at each length and I repeated the test three times.
    Tests had the same lighting, right at EV 11 with around 1/350 shutter speed.

    With the 1D IV I have the following results;
    24mm 0
    35mm +4
    50mm +4
    70mm -1
    I could discount the 24mm as it dropping off will not hurt much. The drop from 50mm to 70mm with a difference of 5 bothers me.
    I think I will ship it back and try another copy.
    Any one think the camera could be a problem?
    The 5D II had similar results only not as exaggerated. It makes me think the 1D IV AF tunes to a finer edge than the 5D II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDNitehawk View Post
    I bought FoCal, since I thought it would be a good time to because I had to check out the new 24-70mm.
    I just ran the new lens through three sets of tests. In all about 12-15 cycles at each length and I repeated the test three times.
    Tests had the same lighting, right at EV 11 with around 1/350 shutter speed.

    With the 1D IV I have the following results;
    24mm 0
    35mm +4
    50mm +4
    70mm -1
    I could discount the 24mm as it dropping off will not hurt much. The drop from 50mm to 70mm with a difference of 5 bothers me.
    I think I will ship it back and try another copy.
    Any one think the camera could be a problem?
    The 5D II had similar results only not as exaggerated. It makes me think the 1D IV AF tunes to a finer edge than the 5D II.
    Does it have a visible effect on the images? That doesn't sound like a camera problem to me and it may fall within the factory specs for the lens especially considering the 24mm and 70mm are so close. It might be worth trying another copy but if the images are good I would not send it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Eade View Post
    Does it have a visible effect on the images? That doesn't sound like a camera problem to me and it may fall within the factory specs for the lens especially considering the 24mm and 70mm are so close. It might be worth trying another copy but if the images are good I would not send it back.
    That is what I have been debating. It feels prime sharp, but I didn't get a chance to set it up on controlled test for sharpness yet. I was able to shoot several hundred shots Saturday morning and was fairly impressed. The lens seems very sharp, but I did notice that some of the shots were a bit weak. I should go back and see if they were primarly in the mid range. Maybe do some more testing, it wouldn't matter if I send it back today or tomorrow it would still be next week before I get a new one back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDNitehawk View Post
    With the 1D IV I have the following results;
    24mm 0
    35mm +4
    50mm +4
    70mm -1
    I could discount the 24mm as it dropping off will not hurt much. The drop from 50mm to 70mm with a difference of 5 bothers me.
    I'd be concerned, and sending it back makes sense. You could pick reasonable AFMA values, maybe W = +2 and T = 0 or +1, and use FoCal to run a single-AFMA aperture sharpness test at 50mm and 70mm, to see how they compare.

    I have something similar with my 28-300L - it's around +4 at 28mm, 50mm, 100mm, and 300mm, but around -2 at 200mm. If I'd bought it new, I'd send it back (I bought it used for around 60% of the current new lens price, and while I like it, I'm not sure I like it enough to keep it, may swap it out for the 24-70 II, actually, or perhaps the 50L). As it is, looking over my EXIF with the lens, only around 10% of the shots are between 150-250mm, and it's f/5.6 at that point so AF errors aren't as critical as with an f/2.8 lens like yours.
    Last edited by neuroanatomist; 11-19-2012 at 03:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist View Post
    I'd be concerned, and sending it back makes sense. You could pick reasonable AFMA values, maybe W = +2 and T = 0 or +1, and use FoCal to run a single-AFMA aperture sharpness test at 50mm and 70mm, to see how they compare.
    I took your advice, to extremes. I printed off a new chart on the Pixma 9000 using matt paper. Rearranged the lights to make sure a bit and got a little better results and the range tightened a bit.

    I ran the aperture sharpness test all the way across the board. This lens seems to back focus at 50mm and then it falls off at 70mm.

    This is what the chart looks like. I think a person could take this lens and be very happy with it because it performs so well at 50mm.
    I am still leaning toward sending it back.

    This is tonights results and is the IQ at f/2.8 at each setting from the foCal aperture sharpness test;
    Setting 24mm 35mm 50mm 70mm
    -2 1139 1095 1101
    -1 1109 1132 1150 1088
    0 1139 1122 1147 1101
    1 1125 1161 1151 1075
    2 1130 1152 1169 1069
    3 1012 1002 1189
    4 1170
    Average 1 1 3 -1

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